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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2024
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Posted - 2012.03.23 16:30:00 -
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Yet another reason to thank The Mittani and CSM 6. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2025
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:00:00 -
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Another blow to Team Tech. First their titans then their tech moons.
It ain't easy being ~elite PvP~ The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2025
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:11:00 -
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Pubbie incursions are literally WoW+Gearscore The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2045
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:12:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Yet another reason to thank The Mittani and CSM 6. Bullshit. More like another reason to thank the thousands of players who did what needed to be done to get CCP to wake up from Micro-transaction Dreamland. We unsubbed to hurt the only thing CCP cared about at the time; their wallet. But you keep drinking that Kool-Aid and spreading lies.
Oh wow...you're pretty much wrong about everything.
CCP didn't even realize how broken tech moons are until Mittens explained it to them. If they are finally going to do something to correct the imbalance it's a direct result of CSM 6 and they should be recognized for it.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2047
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:19:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Yet another reason to thank The Mittani and CSM 6. Bullshit. More like another reason to thank the thousands of players who did what needed to be done to get CCP to wake up from Micro-transaction Dreamland. We unsubbed to hurt the only thing CCP cared about at the time; their wallet. But you keep drinking that Kool-Aid and spreading lies. Oh wow...you're pretty much wrong about everything. CCP didn't even realize how broken tech moons are until Mittens explained it to them. If they are finally going to do something to correct the imbalance it's a direct result of CSM 6 and they should be recognized for it. CSM6 was an alright CSM, but CCP has known about this in detail for ages. -Liang
I guess that just illustrates how bad CSM 1-5 were. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2047
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:28:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Liang Nuren wrote: CSM6 was an alright CSM, but CCP has known about this in detail for ages.
-Liang
I guess that just illustrates how bad CSM 1-5 were. Naw, what it illustrates is just how far CCP management had their head up their ass until the players started literally rioting and unsubbing. -Liang
lol nobody rioted or unsubbed over moon goo.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2050
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Posted - 2012.03.24 00:12:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote: It illustrates what the players who participated in the Summer of Rage are capable of.
Remember during the summer of rage when CCP brought the CSM to Iceland for an emergency meeting? If players unsubbing was the only thing responsible for all these great changes that meeting wouldn't have been necessary.
I understand it's hard for some people to give a goon-led CSM credit but in this case it's deserved.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2122
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Posted - 2012.03.25 04:58:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:ok prove it so I can eat my tin foil hat... were do you get the numbers which say there are more bots there then in null?
The data came directly from CCP.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2124
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Posted - 2012.03.25 05:15:00 -
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Some of you need to take the tinfoil hats off and stop snorting so much coke before taking to the forums. The paranoia is getting ridiculous. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2127
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:37:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Some of you need to take the tinfoil hats off and stop snorting so much coke before taking to the forums. The paranoia is getting ridiculous. If you don't see the potential for bots taking over this new system then I don't know how goons keep you around. Then again the idea that active players participating in anything besides CTAs (And thus asking for more in return) must be a nightmare for many nullsec alliances.
lol we don't have CTAs
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2127
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:43:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Why do you think I talk about nullsec alliances? Because I was in that crap. I was in the constant CTAs. I did my part and got jack crap for it while good ole boys never had to worry about ships lost or income streams (Thinking back they likely were a group of botters themselves based on their attitudes on things)
It was about the moon goo it was about the renter space. It was about everything except #1234 of Corp #3 Of mah epic alliance.
So yes Mister Goon I know all about nullsec. That is why I left it and will continue to pressure CCP to fix the crap that makes it a den of good ole boys and RMT. So I can return and blow **** up again.
Maybe don't join a ****** renter corp next time.
In my alliance our moongoo pays for ship reimbursement for both fleet ops and random skirmishes, small gangs or even solo roaming. It sometimes also pays the insurance that we used to get for ganking miners in high sec.
Some of it goes towards plexes for our logistics heroes who keep all our infrastructure running.
A bunch of it goes towards our cap and supercap builders so we can offer those ships to our members at cost. It also pays for the all the fuel that those ships use so the pilots don't have to buy their own.
Every few months one of our directors publishes our finances so we can see where the isk is going.
We do all that for our members and we don't have CTAs, Red Pen ops, mandatory mining ops or any of that crap. People show up for fleets because they aren't treated like dirt.
Maybe you should stop basing all your views of nullsec on the one crappy corp you belonged to for a week or so before the afk cloakers ran you back to high sec. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2128
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Posted - 2012.03.25 06:54:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Just an FYI the cloaky's didn't run it me off (Only thing I ever lost to a cloaky was a salvage destroyer) It was my corp not giving two craps to support my ideas on a solution "Meh we don't care we will just stay at the POS until later" I did not make the topic to support those lazy idiots. (Everyone has their bad corp or two in history) It was because it was a part of the general cake of dog crap that is nullsec that I decided to make my ideas heard on. If I can't respect my corp I don't support it. (Were idiots anyway I could have made off with half the assets because of the roles I kept getting showered with despite my requests not to as I hate roles)
There you go...you were in a bad corp and that's what ruined nullsec for you. There are other options.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2129
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Posted - 2012.03.25 07:21:00 -
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Or even more likely comedy supercap lossmails. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2132
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Posted - 2012.03.25 07:47:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Andski wrote:Reimbursement programs serve two purposes - they allow members to reship and get back into the fight without worrying about ratting ISK back up to pay for ships, and more importantly, they encourage members for flying the right ships. Your plan would cost us both of those benefits. I just don't see how. I would assume goons would say. "Doing this allows us to help you. We show you how we spend the goo you give us." And I would assume goons would line up to go goo fishing. And considering the large glob of space you own I don't think fishing ponds would be in short supply.
Are you wanting us to distribute technitium to everybody instead of using the money it generates to fund ship replacement? I honestly can't figure out what you're getting at.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2132
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Posted - 2012.03.25 07:53:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Andski wrote:Reimbursement programs serve two purposes - they allow members to reship and get back into the fight without worrying about ratting ISK back up to pay for ships, and more importantly, they encourage members for flying the right ships. Your plan would cost us both of those benefits. I just don't see how. I would assume goons would say. "Doing this allows us to help you. We show you how we spend the goo you give us." And I would assume goons would line up to go goo fishing. And considering the large glob of space you own I don't think fishing ponds would be in short supply. Are you wanting us to distribute technitium to everybody instead of using the money it generates to fund ship replacement? I honestly can't figure out what you're getting at. I want yours and everyone's members to make that call. Goons may do it right to start but in the end it needs to be the members that decide if they want to do the thing that gets the goo to make the SRF or make good ole boys rich.
It would be literally ******** to distribute wealth that way. Plus why would I want to have to ship my monthly allotment of tech to Jita every month to have the money to buy ships when my alliance is willing to do it for me?
As for other alliances...people need to stop being sheep. If you are part of a nullsec alliance that makes money from moon goo and they don't have basic things like ship replacement or make you set your alarm clock for fleets then don't stay in that alliance. Idiots making a ton of money by RMTing alliance assets are only able to do so because their minions allow it. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2132
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Posted - 2012.03.25 07:56:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Andski wrote:also those kinds of distribution programs would be a nightmare to audit, and would thus be hilariously prone to skimming and other bullshit
i'm not a director and I'd say "**** that" That is for alliances to decide. In the end it is the members that get the goo tho. Don't mess with the members
No it's for individual members to decide. If you don't like how your alliance's wealth is used then don't remain a member of that alliance.
This is not a difficult concept. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2132
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Posted - 2012.03.25 08:04:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:And thus change can happen from within instead of using other bullcrap to hold members in.
lol...alliances that try to run as a democracy usually fall apart rather quickly. Space Communism is the way to go.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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